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VortexfugueMay 22, 2007 10:18pm
Hmmm, could it be? Are those really valid arguments against crop circle hoaxers?

Nope, doesn't look like it.

Blown nodes? Blow nose.
italian-scallionMay 23, 2007 6:50am
If it's on the internet, it must be true. Why would they make this up?

LadyFromShanghaiMay 23, 2007 8:04am
There are also the White House explanation and the conspiracy explanation of 9/11... and it's clear that if one of them is true, the other is false. There's also the possibility that the truth is even more complex... and they are both false :)

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VortexfugueMay 23, 2007 9:11pm
Circular Reasoning: The 'Mystery' of Crop Circles and Their 'Orbs' of Light. Good article. If crop circles (some, not all, since we know humans make them) are made by extraterrestrials, why do we only see their handiwork and never their "hands"? Why is it we never see a chain of evidence beyond the stomped grass?

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KanookieMay 24, 2007 10:33am
I can't think of one case where credible evidence has been found to suggest otherworldly influence. No signs of spaceship exhaust, no dropped extraterrestrial items like a phaser, or galactic map, nothing other than human involvement. But they are beautiful pieces of art.

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This is one of my favorites.

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carouselleMay 24, 2007 10:51am
I agree with #4 and #5. Something I find truly interesting and amazing is the artists choose to remain a mystery. That is so against human nature not to want to take credit for your work.
Concerning extraterrestrials, when I see pictures of our galaxy and beyond and how infinitely small our planet really is in the sea of space, it's very hard for me to even imagine being found by others. It would be something like finding a specific grain of sand on a beach the size of the Pacific Ocean. Or maybe, I just lack imagination. *shrug*

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VortexfugueMay 24, 2007 10:59am
Nah, you don't lack imagination. The universe is HUGE and the speed of light is just too slow in relation to it. The odds are tiny that we'd ever be visited due to those limitations: the vast distances between stars, speed of light limit, hyper advanced physics to somehow traverse those distances, the vast resources required to make that journey, etc. And then, after all that, to only flatten some grass and not even reveal themselves? Um, no, I'm not buying.

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carouselleMay 24, 2007 11:10am
The human artists must be a special breed to remain silent about their work. Some of these are really beautiful and intricate.

Here's an interesting article I just stumbled on.

world-mysteries.com/sci_14.htm [world-mysteries.com/sci_14.htm]

LuridHopeMay 25, 2007 11:14pm
...I'm sure lots of firefox fans really believe that it's sign from heaven. Proof of their divine superiority over all other browsers.

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VortexfugueMay 25, 2007 11:17pm
I know I do.


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